AI Art Debate: Is It Stealing or Innovation? | FriendZone
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The FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime community recently hosted a spirited debate regarding the ethics of AI in the art world. Members discussed whether AI generation constitutes stealing or a natural evolution of creative tools, comparing it to historical industrial shifts. This conversation highlights the diverse perspectives within our server on how technology impacts traditional artistic expression and the future of the creati...
Is people being dramatic or are they being fr when they are talking about that ai stole their product and should it be taken serious, about their work and nobody should use ai on it?
people and ai learn art the same way
yes
you're a program too
isn't "learning" by watching tutorials and others people art as much "stealing"?
not quite
ai doesn't "copy" it tries to match an image
and dont you use your memory?
werent you feed information through your eyes?
thats lack of eye hand coordination
computers are also good at math, are they cheating that too?
so good is only good if first bad
good is result
what about trying an awful lot and getting a garbage result
duh?
oh no, why the best painting wins instead of the one with more effort behind it?!!!
what happened to the fact vs feelings?
learning is stealing nowadays
you were right, you cant win against people like you
Yes they steal and drawers r a piece of furniture
its not stealing but whatever
and you reinvent the wheel?
Ur debating a ragebaiter btw
nah, but im used to not being taken seriously
Alr lol
doesn't matter
maybe if you were open to logical opinions
this is like old people hating on factories and the "whatever is called" revolution.
its better and makes sense, but hurts their feelings
Valid
whos hurt?
so free market is bad? you cant have competition?
which art has been stolen?
monopoly
its more options, if people choose one over other if not AIs fault
ig Lebron is also like taking basketball players job?
You cant be good without getting haters
and everyone used other people art to learn
Artists can still thrive even if AI is stealing, like writers can still write even tho the industry is also hit a lot
imagine you take a lot of essays and use them to learn how a proper essay looks
if that was the case, they it couldnt modify it
That's not stealing tho
exactly
If u take parts then claim it as ur own then it is, if u get ideas then it isn't and that's the human brains thinking for itself
Been mentioning AI on hot takes numerous times
Yes it takes away peoples jobs
And will potentially be automated
Even painting:drawing jobs atp
True tho it won't stop those who know that they can still try, many ppl still appreciate human made art
okay then, i cant help you
They won't take those jobs fully, some still value artists work
better alternatives are bad.
we should go back to living in caves and hunting for fpod
Cavemen lifestyle
how are you supposed to learn without feedback?
Ofc but those with no care will keep going, what artists can do is not let it stop them from doing what they enjoy
itz like asking a blind person to draw
Also things like copyright claims could be done and things to stop AI from being able to use their work
yeah, they can generate garbage
but from your perspective based on feelings i bet thats better
Still possible depending on where u look, like ppl set up commissions and some websites r dedicated to artists work so not all hope is lost and the industry isn't just gonna go away
i cant take you seriously
same buddy
my opinion has logic, but its beyond your shorthanded understanding
so did i
Trust me
By the time we’re all gone
AI gonna be widespread everywhere like Cyberpunk 2077
"if free food becomes accessible, farmers will lose their job"
Nah ppl will still respect art and artists will still enjoy making it, even I started while AI art was rising cos it looked fun to draw
Not everyone likes gen AI tho so it can still work, also struggling to make a living can happen in more than just the art industry
art could still come from artist, yk?
Not accepting it as an option, I just go with the mindset of not using or agreeing with and working with the idea that artists will still keep making art
same with the industrial revolution, and thats why we now have phones and cars and airplanes
the food wouldn't have to come from the farmers, but whatever
but i am the one ragebaiting, right?
What path do u mean, like being an artist I'm guessing
....
im done explaining it, makes sense, but you have to think
So it can still be a side hussle, it'll always be hard but some can still choose to try
you dont agree with logic and critical thinking
That's for like most hobbies which can be jobs nowadays, doesn't mean it's not possible
thats like saying people shouldn't try to do sports because they wont get hired.
does it mean we should blame the good players for taking away jobs?
for simply being a better alternative?
Yeah exactly, they should at least try
no they shouldnt, listen to her
It is but it won't stop those with enough passion to go through with what they want
we should lower the bar and hired eveb the least skillful artists
Yh ig it's better to give up and let AI win
It's bad but artists can either let it affect what they do or choose to ignore the threat
cars took horses job off, dont see you complaining about that
improvement is always good
horses like movement
Then u mentioned abt artists not feeling they can go through with their passion
and they get paid by having food
I thought we were expanded on the debate since we agreed with the initial statement
okay what about vacuum cleaner and washing machines taking off maids jobs
Yeah but not everyone, like for me personally I started wanting to make art during the time AI was becoming a big thing and 'taking over'
It didn't stop many artists, it just pushed them to do more
omg, all of your points are "erm actually"
nice ragebai
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Doesn't mean they stopped entirely
you just want to be able to do a mediocre job and still be hired
you said like if "starving artist" wasnt the common trope
that was before ai btw
actually
I wouldn't give up on making art, I mean it's similar for the writing industry but authors aren't gonna stop
The industries will evolve and change, they'll focus more on creativity
Ppl will give up like for anything, like sports
same opportunities for skilled ones
It won't stop others from still trying to play at being pros
Ik and I'm saying that's for basically every industry out there
It'll hurt but if ppl focus on their passion then it's just another obstacle to go through
there are better paid jobs, you choosed, your fault if it doesn't work out
It's not like AI can be shut down, but I won't give up doing art for that but idk abt anyone else
i cant try to sell rock and then complain im not becoming rich
I'm not shifting the blame ur just changing my words😭
And no I don't mean competing with AI omg
if the diamonds from the ai are a copy as you say, no one would want thwm
Some would rather buy the real thing so they won't want smth fake
wow common sense
thats ofc if you want result, but you seem to think effort matters the most
i bet there are some great artists that they are so good that is basically effortless for them.
i wonder if it means their art is worthless as well
same mentality as why someone people stay fat
Damn they left the server
are you sure they didn't just block you?
im sure she blocked me
cant handle the truth
Name is white so they left but they probs did block too lmao
i, unlike you, dont see color
Oh sad
yeah, its sad that you focus on peoples color rather than actions
Their action was leaving
which is ironically what certain color fathers usually do
The act of prompting an Ai successful is hard too though 
And also Ai is a product of human creativity
but there no soul in ai, same as ginger people
Well, I haven't seen a human soul either
you have to rip it out of them when they are young
That sounds nice
hm
with feedback through their eyes
you cant draw a bird without knowing how it looks
so?
Dw he ragebaits everybody
i dont rage bait anyone, you are just too stupid to comprehend basic logic
It's a valid concern, very concerning especially when the wealthy class can rip off somebody's work and earn a huge profit with it, then sue the original artist. AI art should be outright banned
No, I had to look it up on YT. Indeed, a good example. I'm disgusted. Vaseline is a corp that has been around for a long time and they can't afford to hire the original artist? Help an artist out in this hard economy? Smh
