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The FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime server is hosting a lively debate regarding the ethics of criticizing capitalism while utilizing its services. Members are discussing whether it is hypocritical to condemn the system while benefiting from its innovations. This thread highlights the community's diverse perspectives on economic systems, innovation, and the importance of maintaining a balanced viewpoint in online discourse.

@grandquiver-69 South Korea is a commercial hub atp and functionals very differently from the average country, basi…
quiethammer-89 OP

singapore has benefitted a lot from it too. india is also on a growth track, lifintg 100s of millions of out poverty

@quiethammer-89 have you seen the reason why poor countries fail? its either insane debt or unstable govt if you gi…
grandquiver-69

Both but the world operates in a connected way and these countries don't always control what goes on for them, loans also are held by richer nations (USA has many of those companies headquartered there)

@jadetiger-51 You're moving goal posts. You started at "socialism can't be implemented realistically, only 'good…
quiethammer-89 OP

you must be ignorant to think china is a true socialist. its a mxed economy. it's one of the most aggressibely capitalistic countries while also being mixed with regulation

its no way a true socialist

@quiethammer-89 singapore has benefitted a lot from it too. india is also on a growth track, lifintg 100s of millio…
grandquiver-69

Singapore is a small island and operates very differently to other countries, India may be growing but it still has extreme issues (yet I get they have more to do since it's a bunch of states working as one country)

@grandquiver-69 Singapore is a small island and operates very differently to other countries, India may be growing…
quiethammer-89 OP

india has issues, but lifting 100s million people out of poverty is a big feat. and it happened when they opened their economy up.

ive given exmaples of multiple countries, big and small now. socialism sounds perfect in theory, but implementing it is unrealistic imo as humans are greedy, power seeking

@quiethammer-89 they dont have right structure to handle and manage the loans given. they need strict conditions so…
grandquiver-69

Often it doesn't allow those countries to invest in mainly public industries, they wanna privatise everything and don't put anything in for the ppl like hospitals and schools and it's around a capitalist framework

@grandquiver-69 Often it doesn't allow those countries to invest in mainly public industries, they wanna privatise…
quiethammer-89 OP

i think free hopsitals and schools makes sense, shoudl be implemented. i agree fully with that

but industries being public is a big no no for me, at least non core industries. many socialist seming countries with "public" industires is just a bunch of oligarchs who own it. its not truly owned by the people

@quiethammer-89 india has issues, but lifting 100s million people out of poverty is a big feat. and it happened whe…
grandquiver-69

Maybe and yh it's not perfect but it still doesn't work for every country, also not saying socialism is a better solution either

grandquiver-69

Gotta go, nice discussion

@grandquiver-69 Maybe and yh it's not perfect but it still doesn't work for every country, also not saying socialis…
quiethammer-89 OP

my point in the start was capitalism has lot of flaws, but it seems to have many benefits thatt people conveniently ignore

then we shifted to how socialism seems perfect in theory but unrealistic in practice. thats all. i think you and i agree on most of the broad aspects of it

@grandquiver-69 Gotta go, nice discussion
quiethammer-89 OP

same. i'll sleep now. good day

@quiethammer-89 you must be ignorant to think china is a true socialist. its a mxed economy. it's one of the most a…
jadetiger-51

I quite literally said 'not socialist, but my point still stands'

jadetiger-51

aww.

jadetiger-51

they're gone.

jadetiger-51

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sharphammer-94

I agree. I think socialism is good on paper but not when you account for human nature .

Even if means of production are centralized the decision makers are people. And people are corrupt. Greedy and influenced by power, short term incentives and ego

And your point about socialism not being able to withstand coups, turbulence is valid.

It's too fragile and idealistic.

I support mixed economy. With many capitalistic element's while also having socialist elements like no monopolies, free or addorda healthcare and education, strict regulation for huge companies while easy to open and run businesses for small companies and no price gouging or dynamic pricing. I think a mixture of best of both worlds is realistic enough

@quiethammer-89 You cannot hate capitalism and use goods and services provided by them. you would be a hypocrite.
snowysilver-75

You wouldn't say the same if ur a Congolese whom they starve for ts

snowysilver-75

People views are based on their position ur just not in the receiving side of getting Gsided thats why u think its stupid to complain talk abt narrow vision

snowysilver-75

And ant using goods unfortunately thats how life has became u need a phone to call emergencies to use for university talk to relatives ur acting like everyone who uses it are complicit some use the same devices to fight capitalism

snowysilver-75

Ur hottake basically screems if u hate wearing cloths go naked knowing damn well you will have consequences of arrest ppl who hate capitalism also have to work online to feed themselves having electronics is now a necessity

snowysilver-75

And yes to say capitalism is bad (im not a communist society is just fucked ) or maybe the wat its implemented big capitalists tend to do Atrocities to ppl with recourse while they could just buy or have a exchange of goods but no lets arm and kill children that's the issue

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