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happycactus-77

What are you talking about

happycactus-77

Your analogy only works if you know the embryo will have a terminal illness and will die shortly after birth

happycactus-77

If the baby has a terminal illness that will for sure take its life shortly after birth then I wouldn’t be against abortion

happycactus-77

but if it’s like down syndrome or something then yeah I am against aborting a down syndrome baby because of course I am

happycactus-77

That’s not a terminal illness

happycactus-77

Not the same thing as a dog with a terminal illness that you euthanize to prevent suffering

happycactus-77

Idk what’s confusing ab this lol

happycactus-77

Which opinion?

happycactus-77

I think life is better than death in all scenarios

happycactus-77

Because down syndrome people have a right to life just like the rest of us do?

happycactus-77

Having a mental illness doesn’t mean you get your right to life deprived

happycactus-77

Obviously I prefer they take care of it

happycactus-77

Worst option would always be death though

happycactus-77

Sure and that’s better than death

happycactus-77

Im happier with an adopted down syndrome baby than a dead one

happycactus-77

I still think death is worse

happycactus-77

Ask a foster child if they’d let you kill then

happycactus-77

I bet they’ll say no

happycactus-77

Death is worse

happycactus-77

Feeling pain is also not a qualifier for the right to life btw

sharpcactus-22

no

@silentbadger-79 أولًا، نحن جميعًا مجموعة من الخلايا ذات بنية فريدة، ولدينا ببساطة عدد أكبر بكثير منها مقارنة بالأطف…
silentbadger-79 OP

I have already stated that we are all cells, stop recycling the cells statement.

@happycactus-77 أنت تخلط هنا بين الخلايا البشرية والكائن الحي البشري. خلايا الجلد خلايا تنتمي إلى كائن حي بشري. أما…
silentbadger-79 OP

Thank you!🙏. This is the second time you are agreeing with my "hot takes", that's pretty awesome and very rare in our world.

Gabe also reemphasized that.

@silentbadger-79 هذا استنتاج منطقي بسيط: الطفل الذي لم يولد بعد إنسان، وهذا مثبت علميًا، وتحديدًا منذ لحظة الإخصاب.…
sunnywalrus-39

I guess, in few states, it's illegal. But abortion can be legal. So I guess we can't consider it murder.

@sunnywalrus-39 I guess, in few states, it's illegal. But abortion can be legal. So I guess we can't consider it mu…
silentbadger-79 OP

That's exactly why I called a logical inference not a legal assessment. I am basically saying that the laws are wrong and illogical, infact some actually contradict the US Declaration of Independence - the first paragraph

@silentbadger-79 That's exactly why I called a logical inference not a legal assessment. I am basically saying that…
sunnywalrus-39

Ultimately, what may be seen as the illogicality or logic of these laws will hinge on what one thinks the founding principles are. If the founding principles are that the inalienable right of liberty protects a person's control over their own body, then restrictive laws are downright contradictory. If the founding principles are that the inalienable right of life extends to a fetus at conception, then allowing for abortion seems equally irrational. Because the Declaration of Independence does not explicitly state when Life begins or how to resolve conflicts among the inalienable rights, it becomes a text that both sides can use to justify their positions.

@sunnywalrus-39 Ultimately, what may be seen as the illogicality or logic of these laws will hinge on what one thin…
silentbadger-79 OP

But the most authoritative source on where life begins is at science and it says, that's at conception.

@sunnywalrus-39 Ultimately, what may be seen as the illogicality or logic of these laws will hinge on what one thin…
happycactus-77

The founding principles do not say that a person has complete bodily autonomy period let alone to the extent that you can take human life with your bodily autonomy. Haven’t you heard of the draft?

@sunnywalrus-39 I guess, in few states, it's illegal. But abortion can be legal. So I guess we can't consider it mu…
happycactus-77

You are making the same mistake as the previous person; confusing current law with morality. The law follows the morality, not the other way around. Early 19th century southern American slave owners would have considered African slaves to be not human and merely property simply because the law said so. Were they correct? Absolutely not

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