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FriendZone | Freunde finden & Chatten ⋅ Aktiver sozialer Spaß ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC veranstaltet eine Community-Diskussion über die rechtliche Definition von Völkermord im Kontext des Israel-Gaza-Konflikts. Mitglieder analysieren historische Vergleiche, internationales Recht und die Kriterien für Völkermord versus Krieg. Dieser Thread beleuchtet die vielfältigen Perspektiven innerhalb des Servers, während Nutzer darüber debattieren, ob aktuelle Ereignisse die spezifische rechtliche Schwelle für Völkermord erreichen....

fleetanchor-53

free plaestine 🇦🇪

@quickranger-40 and from a jewish perspective? its the same shit >????
pearlguitar-88

No it's not...😭 the two are different

@fleetanchor-53 free plaestine 🇦🇪
quickranger-40

from hamas

@pearlguitar-88 No it's not...😭 the two are different
quickranger-40

how

@quickranger-40 from hamas
pearlguitar-88

From israel

@quickranger-40 and from a jewish perspective? its the same shit >????
snowysilver-75

And THATS WHY I SAY 2 STATE WONT WORK 😭🥀

@pearlguitar-88 I literally did and even dm'd the other guy a video from the official UN report detailing everythin…
silentbadger-79 OP

You sent me a UN inquiry
A UN Inquiry commission simply doesn't have the legal jurisdiction to call something a genocide, that's the job of the ICJ.

It is literally not lawful for them to do that, yet an inquiry did that...and the inquiry itself doesn't prove genocide, simply because stated, it simply didn't use ICJ standards, and conveniently it doesn't have to because it was never a judicial body

snowyorange-96

:aliencat:

snowysilver-75

Yall tripping

@quickranger-40 lets look at the objective facts and definitions
grandquiver-69

Like we actually see the ICJ and UN which give those being fully correct

@snowysilver-75 And THATS WHY I SAY 2 STATE WONT WORK 😭🥀
quickranger-40

2 state IS the logical solution

snowyorange-96

This got to be ragebait

@grandquiver-69 Like we actually see the ICJ and UN which give those being fully correct
quickranger-40

un as evidence isnt good btw that org is fucked on its own right

@quickranger-40 un as evidence isnt good btw that org is fucked on its own right
grandquiver-69

Yh I completely agree with that lol

@quickranger-40 how
pearlguitar-88

It's a country they use basic as that they control the water the electricity they control what goes in and what comes out not to forget they obviously have the higher power over palestine

pearlguitar-88

Someone controlling you in your own land

@grandquiver-69 Oh wow how nice of them to give a piece of land to the people who already lived there... Oh you wan…
silentbadger-79 OP

Umm..you are not addressing my point

grandquiver-69

The UN goes on tippy toes to make sure the 5 permanent council members don't decide to destroy what's left of it's 'control', don't wanna be league of nations

@pearlguitar-88 It's a country they use basic as that they control the water the electricity they control what goes…
quickranger-40

what does electricity have to do with the fact that both jews and palestinians have equal historic ties and ancestry to the same land

@silentbadger-79 Umm..you are not addressing my point
grandquiver-69

And you seemed to not see mine

@pearlguitar-88 bro you keep repeating that magic phrase like you just discovered the legal dictionary yesterday wh…
happycactus-77

scale of destruction still does not automatically prove genocidal intent. The ICJ has literally dealt with cases involving widespread killings, serious harm and destruction and still found that the purpose was something like forced displacement rather than physical destruction of the group, so genocide was not proven.

@quickranger-40 2 state IS the logical solution
snowysilver-75

U gotta be ragebaiting

@quickranger-40 what does electricity have to do with the fact that both jews and palestinians have equal historic…
pearlguitar-88

They don't palestinians are the people of the land they lived in it for hundreds of years and we have evidenced that proves that

quickranger-40

jews and palestinians both have deep ancestral ties to the land. the israelites from whom the jewish ppl descended from, are documented from 1200 BCE. palestinians also descended substantially from populations that have lived in the levant for millenia. jews were technically there first btw thats not even fuckin relevant to the real point im trying to make which is that BOTH identities find ties to their ancestral homelands

@snowyorange-96 These people dumber then a brain cell
silentbadger-79 OP

People like you piss me off. You couldn't possibly hold a candle to any body participating in this conversation, neither would you participate. You would only come on here and insult people.

If we are dumber than a brain cell, I couldn't possibly imagine what you are

@pearlguitar-88 They don't palestinians are the people of the land they lived in it for hundreds of years and we ha…
quickranger-40

u my friend need to google

@silentbadger-79 People like you piss me off. You couldn't possibly hold a candle to any body participating in this…
snowyorange-96

Good

snowyorange-96

If ur pissed of bc of that then u have low temper

snowyorange-96

💀

@snowyorange-96 Good
happycactus-77

You haven’t made a single substantive argument btw

@grandquiver-69 And you seemed to not see mine
silentbadger-79 OP

Fair enough. If you want, you can show me?

@happycactus-77 scale of destruction still does not automatically prove genocidal intent. The ICJ has literally dea…
grandquiver-69

Yeah let's listen to the ICJ which certainly doesn't have any biases (majority of their wanted list is people of African descent)

@happycactus-77 You haven’t made a single substantive argument btw
snowyorange-96

I dont have to

snowyorange-96

:pepetea:

happycactus-77

Pro palis here are just larping with the possible exception of Abdullah

@happycactus-77 You haven’t made a single substantive argument btw
silentbadger-79 OP

Not one. I am out of words on what to use to insult him. Its basically not my stole.

@happycactus-77 Pro palis here are just larping with the possible exception of Abdullah
silentbadger-79 OP

Yep.

@happycactus-77 Pro palis here are just larping with the possible exception of Abdullah
quickranger-40

The real tea is that ppl just left like they actually care about human lives but they actually just care about their own bigoted beliefs

@happycactus-77 scale of destruction still does not automatically prove genocidal intent. The ICJ has literally dea…
pearlguitar-88

bro bringing up forced displacement as your "alternative explanation" isn't the legal win you think it is 💀
​first driving an entire population out of their homeland by rendering their environment completely uninhabitable and destroying their survival infrastructure still falls directly under genocidal acts when the method used physically destroys the group in whole or in part
​second the ICJ precedents you are misquoting specifically dealt with cases where basic conditions of life were not completely dismantled to the point of engineered famine and total medical collapse. when you combine widespread physical destruction with official state rhetoric demanding total erasure and the deliberate withholding of life saving necessities the cumulative evidence crosses from ethnic cleansing directly into genocidal intent under international law
​trying to argue "we aren't trying to destroy them, we are just trying to forcibly displace two million people by making their land unlivable" is literally admitting to a major international crime while pretending it magically shields you from the legal reality of genocide im not going in circles you are.

@silentbadger-79 Not one. I am out of words on what to use to insult him. Its basically not my stole.
happycactus-77

Nah they’re just tryna ragebait because they don’t know what to say

@silentbadger-79 Fair enough. If you want, you can show me?
grandquiver-69

Atp my point has been lost, if you want to see then you can scroll to what I wrote above, yet in the end we just pick and choose what we align in, and what is and isn't genocide

@happycactus-77 Pro palis here are just larping with the possible exception of Abdullah
pearlguitar-88

Yeah sure..

@quickranger-40 The real tea is that ppl just left like they actually care about human lives but they actually just…
snowysilver-75

Ahem ahem ur a great example

@quickranger-40 The real tea is that ppl just left like they actually care about human lives but they actually just…
grandquiver-69

Kinda the main issue

@happycactus-77 Nah they’re just tryna ragebait because they don’t know what to say
pearlguitar-88

Yeah not like ive responded to you every time

snowyorange-96

:sus:

@snowysilver-75 Ahem ahem ur a great example
quickranger-40

I’m educated and ur mad about it💀💀💀

@quickranger-40 u my friend need to google
pearlguitar-88

Saying i need google proves nothing btw

@pearlguitar-88 bro bringing up forced displacement as your "alternative explanation" isn't the legal win you think…
happycactus-77

The forced displacement was an example other previous findings… i’m just making sure you understand the legal threshold to prove genocide

@happycactus-77 Pro palis here are just larping with the possible exception of Abdullah
grandquiver-69

Everyone using the term larp nowadays 😮‍💨

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