L'IA générative tue-t-elle la créativité ? | Débat

Je pourrais littéralement ne dessiner que des bonhommes allumettes pendant des années jusqu'à ce que je regarde enfin des tutoriels aléatoires et que j'apprenne vraiment, les compétences doivent être apprises

Donc il n'y a qu'une seule façon universelle et acceptable de faire des œuvres d'art. C'est ce que tu essaies de dire ?

Juste parce que nous faisons quelque chose d'une certaine façon depuis longtemps dans l'histoire ne signifie pas que toute autre façon de le faire est nulle

Vrai, c'est ce que font les gens qui sont réellement intéressés par l'art.

Je veux dire, nous pouvons fabriquer des robots qui peuvent s'occuper des bébés et des tout-petits comme le font leurs mères. Mais nous ne pouvons pas dire que c'est acceptable juste parce que nous n'avons pas à le faire de la même manière juste parce que c'est ce que nous avons toujours fait

Écrire un tas de mots pour générer une image pour souvent se moquer et rabaisser les artistes qui créent réellement du sens à travers ce qu'ils créent est complètement nul, l'IA au début était bizarre et aléatoire mais s'ils s'étaient tenus à des parties plus techniques, ça aurait pu être ok

D'accord. Alors ne les appelons pas artistes. Nous pouvons toujours trouver un nouveau mot qui correspond à ce qu'ils font si la catégorisation des deux dans un même ensemble semble être un embarras

Ouais exactement

L'œuvre d'art faite par ces mots manque-t-elle de sens

Oui

Eh bien.. évidemment tu aurais une idée de ce qu'est le sens derrière une œuvre d'art alors

Comment une image générée à partir d'une machine qui ne peut qu'imiter les façons complexes dont les humains pensent et créent peut-elle jamais avoir un vrai sens, les mots d'une histoire ont plus de sens et c'est une façon complètement différente de faire des prompts

Nous ne sommes pas si complexes

They're called lame people who can't draw and make an effort to learn it. Not being able to draw is not a bad thing but saying you're an artist while refusing to learn is loser behavior.

Besides same machine was made by man

They aren't called lame people. They are people,you are the one calling them lame

Early on when AI was starting out it was pretty intriguing until it started to change and control a already complete space for humans to create

It's nothing about being special, and I meant like the human mind itself is generally pretty complex even if we don't see it

We indeed are complex creatures, one of the main reasons why we're different from animals

Man using a machine to mimic actually artwork will never bring meaning to that artwork like people who draw/paint or wtvr it is they do on a canvas

Imagine not learning addiction and multiplication just cause ai can do it for you or by using calculators. I'd call that lame

Frr, a lot of us don't seem to realise that

That's a different comparison. Artwork isn't simple addition and multiplication

Meaning of art varies from person to person. Just like how the meaning of a poem may mean different things to different people.

Also the machine is complex too

It all depends on what you call meaning

Can be learnt. Also it's not the perfection which makes it art. People have different art styles and none of them make their more artistic

No living, non thinking thing btw

The machine is not human, being made by a human does not make it any more so, what it generates can't be considered pure 'creation', nothing about it ever actually thinks and has no thought behind what it actually 'makes'

People just gonna become brain dead in the coming generation after depending on ai for everything.

Yet. You don't want to accept a different art style made by someone with a machine, just because one made by a human is more artistic

Meaning can include many things, ideas, feelings, a thought, smth a person has seen and actually felt smth abt

Again with the terms on why is true and pure

I've already seen it and people don't put much thought into things now, besides AI is a collection of the internet and spits out wtvr is most popular of a topic

3D models made on computer are art which is also a machine, digital painting is also art. But not AI. Like you didn't "create" anything with ai

I've seen people advertise analyzing messages sent and how to reply by using ai 😭 like holy shi it can't be that hard to read.

And people don't see meaning in artwork made by Ai,is that it? Maybe you don't but I don't think it's all for everyone

Full on creation then, it's an algorithm that pushes together a bunch of pictures it has seen to create what's most popular based on what it's shown

Hmm. Ai is much as a tools as the same tools they used in making 3D models and digital printing. It's a software

People forget that we had to learn language as kids and do this instead 🫩

This gotta be ragebait 😭😭 son just skipped whole process called efforts