Is Generative AI Killing Creativity? | FriendZone Debate

I could literally only draw stick figures for years on end until I finally looked and random tutorials and actually learnt, skills must be learnt

So there is only one universal and acceptable way of making artwork. Is that what you are trying to say?

Just because we have been doing something one way for long time in history doesn't mean any other way of doing it is lame

True, that's what people who's actually interested in art do.

I mean we can make robots which can take care of babies and toddlers like their mothers do. But we can't say that acceptable just because we don't have to do it the same way just because that's what we always did

Writing a bunch of words to generate an image to often mock and demean artists who actually make meaning through what they create is completely lame, AI at first was weird and random but if they stuck to more technical parts of it then it could've been ok

Alright. So let's not call them artist then. We can always make out a new word that fits what they do if categorisation both in one set sounds like an embarrassment

Yh exactly

Do the artwork made by those words lack meaning

Yes

Well.. obviously you would have an idea of what meaning behind an artwork is then

How an image is generated from a machine that can only mimic the complex ways of how humans think and create can never have true meaning, words from a story hold more meaning and it's a completely different way than making prompts

We aren't all that complex

They're called lame people who can't draw and make an effort to learn it. Not being able to draw is not a bad thing but saying you're an artist while refusing to learn is loser behavior.

Besides same machine was made by man

They aren't called lame people. They are people,you are the one calling them lame

Early on when AI was starting out it was pretty intriguing until it started to change and control a already complete space for humans to create

It's nothing about being special, and I meant like the human mind itself is generally pretty complex even if we don't see it

We indeed are complex creatures, one of the main reasons why we're different from animals

Man using a machine to mimic actually artwork will never bring meaning to that artwork like people who draw/paint or wtvr it is they do on a canvas

Imagine not learning addiction and multiplication just cause ai can do it for you or by using calculators. I'd call that lame

Frr, a lot of us don't seem to realise that

That's a different comparison. Artwork isn't simple addition and multiplication

Meaning of art varies from person to person. Just like how the meaning of a poem may mean different things to different people.

Also the machine is complex too

It all depends on what you call meaning

Can be learnt. Also it's not the perfection which makes it art. People have different art styles and none of them make their more artistic

No living, non thinking thing btw

The machine is not human, being made by a human does not make it any more so, what it generates can't be considered pure 'creation', nothing about it ever actually thinks and has no thought behind what it actually 'makes'

People just gonna become brain dead in the coming generation after depending on ai for everything.

Yet. You don't want to accept a different art style made by someone with a machine, just because one made by a human is more artistic

Meaning can include many things, ideas, feelings, a thought, smth a person has seen and actually felt smth abt

Again with the terms on why is true and pure

I've already seen it and people don't put much thought into things now, besides AI is a collection of the internet and spits out wtvr is most popular of a topic

3D models made on computer are art which is also a machine, digital painting is also art. But not AI. Like you didn't "create" anything with ai

I've seen people advertise analyzing messages sent and how to reply by using ai 😭 like holy shi it can't be that hard to read.

And people don't see meaning in artwork made by Ai,is that it? Maybe you don't but I don't think it's all for everyone

Full on creation then, it's an algorithm that pushes together a bunch of pictures it has seen to create what's most popular based on what it's shown

Hmm. Ai is much as a tools as the same tools they used in making 3D models and digital printing. It's a software

People forget that we had to learn language as kids and do this instead 🫩

This gotta be ragebait 😭😭 son just skipped whole process called efforts