Building a Competitive Hisuian Samurott VGC Team

Hisuian samurott can't work in a vacuum, I would caution against making a team surrounding him to be the sweeper and would encourage more of an idea of making him a support that threatens something that a different sweeper just need a bit of coverage for

Beating two out of the big three is a great feat

Also has a good match up into gengar which is relatively common and phox

Also can deal great damage into stuff like Raichu with sucker punch and also has ceaseless edge in case your other Pokémon need chip to get kills

Maybe some sash set? I am not really suee

Sure

I was excited to Reg M-B because i wanted to pair samurott with mega golisopod, since it would be able to threat some fire types that aren't charizard, but since GF is coward and didn't released it, i'm starting to think it can help Mega Delphox pretty well since Basculegion is threaten by it and Kingambit can't KO Samurott before it 2HKO' it at worst with sacred sword if the Kingambit have the chople berry

That might be a niche with phox?

Yeah you're right, but i think it still have a niche against arch if you get it to 60% or lower since it will OHKO it right away (can also test your luck all the way up to 70%)

Max hp

It Kills 27 HP

So max must be a good chance to kill

That's interesting

My headcalc is overestimating Archaludon

Btw most people run night slash over ceaseless edge in double. No chance to miss and spikes aren't really as useful in doubles

Is that adamant no item calc

Night slash is a call but like ceaseless edge definitely helps in some teams

Like yeah you are gambling

But the chip is needed in some calcs

It has less power, doesn't have heightened crit rate and can miss. It really doesn't help tbh

Like my bulky Sneasler leaves Raichu with 2%

So spikes help there

Idk I really Iike passive damage sources

Can help you turn games around

They can be nice, but in general you just aren't benefiting compared to night slash

Again I'm a singles player so I am overestimating ceaseless

I have seen it before and it can be good on some teams

Or veil in general

From what I know

Yeah I am a singles player who likes playing doubles

But I still will push for ceaseless I just think there are

Soooo many calculations you can just straight up ruin

For you opponent

Like oh my whimsicott will survive dwb in the endgame and get a second twind

Boom spikes up endgame wincon ruined

Just an example of a calculation in my mind

Idk might just be biased

Between sucker punch and ceaseless seems like the Mon to do that annoying job

Outside of scovillain ofc

Yes those are fair points and on paper you are correct, however with sharpness, the added boost from 70 bp heightened crit over 65 no heightened crit is just overall better. It severely adjusts rolls and flying/levitate aren't immune, which I know are less common in singles

Ceaseless is sharp

It gets boosted

Also with the hightened crit chance i could use the scope lens to make it 50% of an crit happening

Nvm I misread

Idk I don't see the point in that 5 bp

Like if you miss out on a kill just sucker anyw

And flying Mons aren't that much more common in doubles

If anything you are leading with it

For twind

I know a lot of Mons that would like just a little boost to kill an endgame Basc/Gambit

Or not having to play around sash

Also could you please provider examples of severely adjusted rolls

I don't really feel it does as much

I am not talking about that difference btw

Ceas Vs night slash

Water is obviously the preferred stab into the format

Boosted ceaseless edge is 97.5 power and boosted night slash is 105 power

And what are you clicking them into making difference

It needs to pick up the kill with the diff otherwise you just sucker

Samurott-Hisui @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sharpness
EVs: 32 Atk / 1 Def / 1 SpD / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ceaseless Edge
- Sucker Punch
- Sacred Sword
- Razor Shell

This would probably be my take but again niche

I mean go ahead I hate the lack of sucker but it's your team

I'd pair it with farigiraf for the reason you need sash 4a

Wdy with 4a

Four attacks

Yeah like we are trying to help build it but if you are going to do your own thing and it doesn't work it's like we are doing the best we can

Sucker is basically mandatory unfortunately

and you really should be looking at that coverage

Unfortunately Samurott is one of those mons that you get lucky to get two attacks off with and then it's gone

So here is my example for slash vs edge btw just as an example

not the best example because aqua cutter is better here

32+ Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Night Slash vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Mega Swampert: 81-96 (45.7 - 54.2%) -- 47.27% chance to 2HKO

Hummm, i think will try sucker with no protect then, i already seen some Kingambits drop it to have low kick so maybe it's worth it

32+ Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Ceaseless Edge vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Mega Swampert: 76-90 (42.9 - 50.8%) -- 2.73% chance to 2HKO

Rarely is samurott a mon that can pick up an OHKO, but that difference in chip is big

Thought of a WAY better one hold on

32+ Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Ceaseless Edge vs. 32 HP / 2 Def Farigiraf: 212-252 (93.3 - 111%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

32+ Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Night Slash vs. 32 HP / 2 Def Farigiraf: 228-270 (100.4 - 118.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Idk if i run sash or life orb, since it can take non-super effective physical hits, but special neutral hits already does a lot to it

Generally sash is the way to go tbh. It just isn't bulky enough to survive big hits

0 SpA Sinistcha Matcha Gotcha vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Samurott-Hisui: 114-134 (69 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO - (32 - 37.6% recovered)

don't matter how many times i see this, i always wonder how he can survive that

Because of doubles

literally the only reason

Now i have a base: Mega Delphox and Hisuian-Samurott, what else you guys think i can use? I thinking about making this one of those StarPhox teams

I think sinis could be better since i can make the Water-Fire-Grass core with it

Samurott can kinda deal with Kingambit, but someone else to do the job is good

Sneasler maybe?

If you are making starphox you basically have to have sash glim or it doesn't work

Mega Staraptor + Mega Delphox

Lmao

Ok

I wanted to add either Grimmsnarl or nine for dmg control but alr

Yeah but i also consedering Sneasler to deal with Kingambit and fairys at once while also having fake out

The problem is that i might find a matchup were Kingambit threaten Delphox but their main wincon (for example floette) threats staraptor

I would be able to do so if this format wasn't so intimidate punishing

Wdy with individual moves (srry if i sound dumb)

Ok thx

Ok, i will get to master ball using the team i have, and then take clips of 10 battles in master ball tier so then we can analyze what we can improve, sounds good to you?

Also, this might took a while since i dont have a lot of free time to play this week (i'm also very addictived to minecraft rn)

Ok guys i finally get master ball tier, now i just have to record 10 games using the native record feature in the switch turn by turn and then put them all toghether because i don't have a capture card and my phone don't support champions 🥲(also the last turn against a perish trap team)

This is all we have ever had apparently

Just for curiosity, what is that eclipse trying to do with this info? Is he also trying to use Samurott?

Yeah just wanted some help on samurott

For what i learned i M-A and M-B, it is very usefull when you can position it right, but as Reg M-C i think it is pretty hard to make it work with the abbundance of Rillaboom, Raichu Y, Mega Golisopod and Incineroar, the only new thing that makes you think about using it is Gholdengo's rise in usage, besides that, it don't have a lot going for it (my poor boy 😭😭😭).