Optimize Your Pokémon VGC Sun Team | Expert Strategy Tips
Summary
The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments community provides expert feedback on optimizing Sun Teams for competitive play. This discussion covers essential EV spread adjustments, specifically for Incineroar, and offers strategic advice on how to effectively counter Trick Room and Rain teams in Ultra Rank. Join the conversation to refine your competitive lineup and improve your battle performance.
Getting my ahh whopped(not that badly) in ultra rank
Are there any improvements to this team?
If this is good how to counter trick rooms and rain teams?
can you send a pokepaste
ev spreads and moves
Pretty much the ideal ones
As suggested by a team builder here
first off id invest some into incins speed to ensure that you are the one who gets fakeout off, in a situation where both lead with incin
This basically
you can use the anti fighting or anti water berry, since those are his main weaknesses in the meta
let me see
Ohhh
same goes for kingambit, so you outspeed gholdengo in tailwind
but suckerpunch may be enough, if hes playing no screens or redirection
yk speed is the most important stat in the game
also i do not like Solar beam on chari y. You can not fire types at all and the weather changes very frequently in the meta
overall flying and fire have great offensive synergy
Solar beam kinda helped a lot of times tho
With water types (?) ig
Who am I replacing gholdengo with btw?
I'd also not use Earthquake on garchomp. you only have one pokemon on your team that is immune to ground. Ofc you can protect. but this forces you to play in a awkward position where you dont want to be in
for example kingambit wants to click iron head, but you also want to click a ground type move
earthquakes dmg also reduces by 33% in doubles, because it hits all 3 pokemon on the field
So it actually turns in a 67 Basepower Move where as Stomping Tantrum is a 75 Basepower Move and even rewards you for missing a rock slide
Oh?
same goes for hyper voice, dazzling gleam, muddy water etc, but thats just 25% bc its just 2 pokemon who get hit by it
(Everyday there's something new about this game lmao)
What team are you suggesting then?
I'm kinda getting the moves
you have dengo in team?
wait
Which move?
you only sent 5 pokemon lol
all moves that hit multiple pokemon
heatwave etc
Last one was gyarados but I got basc soon after so they suggested me to change to him in place of basc
I see
so this is your team
Yeah
Current team and my available mons
i would either add sylveon or floette
because fairy fire are evry strong together offensively
This floette is genned
Trying to avoid it
ik whims knows moonblast, but whims just not hard hitting anough
i think sylveon would be the better option anyway
Ahhh i see
What about gholdengo?
Do i need it?
Also trick room comps are also pretty irritating to deal with
Any solution for that?
Sure wait
I am using Skeledirge with roar against trickroom, but you already have chari Y and Incin
So Id say this is a solid option
Twin Beam is very good to get rid of sash sneasler
imprision makes your enemy unable to click trickroom and protect
so you can play way more aggressive with your partner pokemon
can you explain what exactly is hard about trickroom for you
getting rid of the trickroom setter, being inside trickroom, simply disabling trickroom??
How does this team look?
What about replacing kingambit with basc?
its a good core
mega staraptor is no issue for you?
just asking
Mostly prob basc's last resort(?) going late
last respects
I dont mind but heard there are lots of counters recently(?)
yes, i use unaware ghost type with roar to get rid of it, you can also use clefable, it also knows unaware, resists cc, knows moonblast and follow me, so it can even redirect cc
the others like sableye skill swap/swagger are too niche
but if you dont have issues with staraptor
you dont need a ahrd counter
How would a mega star look?
Team*
thats what your team would look like, but rain mega swampert would absolutely destroy that
Ouch
