Optimizing Rain Teams: VGC Strategy & Gholdengo Advice
Summary
This discussion on Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments focuses on refining Rain team compositions for competitive play. Members analyze the viability of Gholdengo and Sinistcha, explore specific EV spreads for optimal recovery, and debate counter-strategies against Trick Room teams. It is a valuable resource for trainers looking to improve their team synergy and matchup knowledge in the current VGC meta.
I almost never bringing Gholdengo and Sinistcha in matches, and i'm really thinking if i should switch one of them, also i have been struggling A LOT against Trick Room teams. so, i would like to know what i could do with them or the other members of the team
Clarifications:
Not max HP on Grimmsnarl and sinistcha: i've did that so then their HP would be divisble by 4 so then i can get max recover from Hospilaty/Life Dew and use the rest in more defense.
1 HP Pelipper: same reason as GRimmsnarl and Sinistcha, max Hospilaty/Life Dew recovery and then use the rest in defense.
12 Speed Gholdengo: Outspeed most mons in tailwind.
If there is anything you think is odd and i did't talked here, let me know!
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That’s probably because Gholdengo is not great at the moment
I would HIGHLY recommend playing a steel type mega evolution instead
There are good options, like Metagross and Scizor
I've already tried Metagross, but i almost never used it as well, but i will consider mega scizor
You’re not meant to use it much, it’s mainly a matchup check for Floette most times
Ok, but i think i dont really have to use him, since Swampert is so strong that it can OHKO floette with Wave Crash, but i think i can use it anyways
Hmmm
Swampert shouldn’t usually do that unless it’s max attack swampert and no bull floette
14+ Atk Swampert-Mega Wave Crash vs. 26 HP / 2 Def Floette-Mega in Rain: 187-222 (106.8 - 126.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO - (28.8 - 28.8% recoil damage)
IDK the normal spread of Bulky floette that is regularly used on Reg M-B but this one i used when i was learning about how the meta played on Reg M-A
Huh fair enough
Do you think that Switch Gholdengo for Mega Mawile and put Trick Room on sinistcha for a Trick Room mode is a good idea?
That’s actually the exact team I play haha
Except with Farig instead of Sinistcha
I have been also consedering put farig on the team since the start of the reg, i've loved blocking priority with queenly majesty tsareena in Reg M-A, but i thinked that the recovery from sinistcha was better
It’s up to you!
Ok, thanks for the help
Evs are weird
bulky floette runs 2hp 31def
it survives gambit ironhead that way, or other strong physical moves, especially with some well played intimidates
So I consider running max atk Swampert
i already runned it, but i prefer using just 14 EVs and adamant for more bulk and still being able to outspeed most Scarf users in rain
just run calcs and it's OHKO 93.8% of the time LMAO
also if i was really worried about it just 2 more EVs is enough to make it guaranteed
