Is Murder Objectively Bad? Deep Debate at FriendZone

Yes. "MURDER" IS objectively wrong.

"KILLING" is not ALWAYS wrong instead.

Yes

Isn't r*paing a child objectively wrong?

V*olating a woman?

Ensl@ving women and children?

Aren't they objectively bad?

Murdering innocents is not objectively bad?

Purposely targeting them with t€rrorist attacks is not objectively bad?

So you do believe they are wrong... But to you they're not objectively wrong, I got it right?

Can you kindly explain when m*rdering (which is the purposefull killing of a person with MALICIOUS intent) is considered right?

Do you realize that makes no sense, right?

So you believe that I should be able to m*rder my wife or my brother out of jealousy or anger, and not be judged for it?

That is not murder though, that is revenge killing, which is easely justifiable

Well that is a very sad view that I'm glad I don't share. You do you, but I would never allow you to be my neighbour (metaphorically ofc in this case, but I would seriously never tolerate living side by side with someone with this mentality)

Murder is the killing of an innocent. Killing a r*pist is not killing an innocent, is giving the right punishment to a monster

But he just said he would think that if "society" (which is simply an excuse to say "the majority") thought it would be ok

Killing an innocent? Like are we actually making this discussion?

Which rn is "I think it's wrong because others decided so"

There is no reason for you to wake up and kill an innocent human being that has never done anything to wrong you, nor cause you arm. The fsct that you give no value to their life to the point that you feel no regret in ending it DOES INDEED make you an evil person.
(Not uou specifically obv, "you" as in the murderer)

I highly disagree with this, because in no actual society, not even the animal one, it works like that

It does make you evil AND a sick and deranged person that should quickly be k*lled

No it doesn't. Show me an animal that allows it's own kin to kill itself for THE FUN OF IT

No, you two agree because that way you won't feel "ostracized" and be called evil by others that actually belive it to be objectively wrong

No, show an animal that KILL IT'S OWN KIND for FUN

Animals live in the REAL LIFE too yk

No, I have objective wrong and rights, like many other people do. Given that I'm a free human, I am allowed to judge others based on those beliefs (like you can do to me too). The point is that when many agree on something, the cowards of the minority agree only out of advantage for their own survival, not because they actually believe in it

It'll show you that what you call "morality" is simply how brains are naturally wired. Self destruction is bad for all animals. But since humans are more intelligent, the evil ones have come up with the concept of subjectiveness to justify their own evil and self distructive actions

No, I said you can judge me too, I didn't say that would make you right

Yes they do, that's because their minds are fundamentally broken. That is why you must always put them down quickly. You don't explain it to them, because they refuse and/or are incapable of understanding. So you just eliminate the threat

No? All people have the same fundamentalrights and wrongs (murder, stealing, r*ping etc). Those that disagree with those and are in favor of justifying them are simply the bad guys

Then proof would just speak for me, since I didn't kill someone for fun but he did

No, because sometimes it's self-defense and sometimes someone is sentenced to death and by law he deserves it

Based again on how nature itself works (if we want to keep out religious beliefs obv). Because nature is highly against self destruction. Every species is against it, because it's FUNDAMENTALLY wrong. That's why killing your own kin without reason is wrong, because it is also self destructive.

You're free to think and say that. I believe your point comes from a complete form of cowardice that nakes you acceot whatever it would make your chances of being accepted in the group (hence surviving) higher, regardless of what they actually believe in.

And now I'm out cuz I really really gtg

Fucking medical visits istg

That's not very nice though

Anyway bye, have a good day

killing is not bad, murder is

killing and murder aren't the same

you could kill someone due to self defense, you can't murder someone due to self defense

i actually didn't read any of your guy's debate tbh

king?

i'll pretend like i know what that is

yup

ima delete my messages so i don't mess with the hot take's thread

Even animals don't just kill their kind for fun only for food or territory or when they are in danger
so this is bullsh*t...
Murdering is wrong
And anyone who thinks it's just objectively wrong because of human morals is a lunatic and need to be set to psychatic ward

Animal aren't dumb dude and they kill only for ba reason
And if a mad woman is to give birth ,the thought of murdering her child wouldn't come into her mind
Unless on rare cases
Murdering is naturally a bad thing even without morals

Humans evolved in different parts of the earth both those with crazy cultures and so on
But how did all come into same thought and ideology that a person's life shouldn't be taken without good reason
Murdering is against nature and that is fact

animals have a different realm of consciousness compared to humans and in their world its survival of the fittest

They do it for a reason
Most times if they are hungry
So this isn't valid dude

According to their brain capacity it is normal for them, cause it is the easy way to get nurishment
But if you want to reduce you worth and and mental capacity or go below them
You can and if you do , Justice would be served for you and you would be treated like animals since you think you are dumb like them

Comparing animals to humans that's insane

Why are humans higher in their intelligence....?
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Only a mentally decline person would think it is okay
And since you don't like or respect life... and have reduced yourself low to the level of animals not just animals insects
Eat yourself then and save the innocent would