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إذاً هناك طريقة واحدة عالمية ومقبولة لصنع الأعمال الفنية. هل هذا ما تحاول قوله؟

فقط لأننا نقوم بشيء بطريقة واحدة لفترة طويلة في التاريخ لا يعني أن أي طريقة أخرى للقيام بذلك هي مثيرة للشفقة

صحيح، هذا ما يفعله الأشخاص المهتمون حقاً بالفن.

أعني، يمكننا صنع روبوتات يمكنها رعاية الأطفال والرضع كما تفعل أمهاتهم. لكن لا يمكننا القول بأن ذلك مقبول فقط لأننا لا نضطر للقيام بذلك بنفس الطريقة فقط لأن هذا ما فعلناه دائماً

كتابة مجموعة من الكلمات لتوليد صورة للسخرية من الفنانين الذين يخلقون المعنى حقاً من خلال ما يخلقونه هو أمر مثير للشفقة تماماً، الذكاء الاصطناعي في البداية كان غريباً وعشوائياً ولكن لو التزموا بأجزاء تقنية أكثر منه لكان الأمر مقبولاً

حسناً. إذاً لا نسميهم فنانين. يمكننا دائماً ابتكار كلمة جديدة تناسب ما يفعلونه إذا كان تصنيف كلاهما في مجموعة واحدة يبدو كإحراج

نعم بالضبط

هل يفتقر العمل الفني الذي صنعته تلك الكلمات إلى المعنى

نعم

حسناً.. من الواضح أنك ستكون لديك فكرة عما هو المعنى وراء عمل فني إذاً

كيف يمكن لصورة تم إنشاؤها من آلة لا يمكنها إلا تقليد الطرق المعقدة التي يفكر بها البشر ويبدعون أن يكون لها معنى حقيقي، الكلمات من قصة لها معنى أكبر وهي طريقة مختلفة تماماً عن صنع الأوامر

نحن لسنا معقدين جداً

They're called lame people who can't draw and make an effort to learn it. Not being able to draw is not a bad thing but saying you're an artist while refusing to learn is loser behavior.

Besides same machine was made by man

They aren't called lame people. They are people,you are the one calling them lame

Early on when AI was starting out it was pretty intriguing until it started to change and control a already complete space for humans to create

It's nothing about being special, and I meant like the human mind itself is generally pretty complex even if we don't see it

We indeed are complex creatures, one of the main reasons why we're different from animals

Man using a machine to mimic actually artwork will never bring meaning to that artwork like people who draw/paint or wtvr it is they do on a canvas

Imagine not learning addiction and multiplication just cause ai can do it for you or by using calculators. I'd call that lame

Frr, a lot of us don't seem to realise that

That's a different comparison. Artwork isn't simple addition and multiplication

Meaning of art varies from person to person. Just like how the meaning of a poem may mean different things to different people.

Also the machine is complex too

It all depends on what you call meaning

Can be learnt. Also it's not the perfection which makes it art. People have different art styles and none of them make their more artistic

No living, non thinking thing btw

The machine is not human, being made by a human does not make it any more so, what it generates can't be considered pure 'creation', nothing about it ever actually thinks and has no thought behind what it actually 'makes'

People just gonna become brain dead in the coming generation after depending on ai for everything.

Yet. You don't want to accept a different art style made by someone with a machine, just because one made by a human is more artistic

Meaning can include many things, ideas, feelings, a thought, smth a person has seen and actually felt smth abt

Again with the terms on why is true and pure

I've already seen it and people don't put much thought into things now, besides AI is a collection of the internet and spits out wtvr is most popular of a topic

3D models made on computer are art which is also a machine, digital painting is also art. But not AI. Like you didn't "create" anything with ai

I've seen people advertise analyzing messages sent and how to reply by using ai 😭 like holy shi it can't be that hard to read.

And people don't see meaning in artwork made by Ai,is that it? Maybe you don't but I don't think it's all for everyone

Full on creation then, it's an algorithm that pushes together a bunch of pictures it has seen to create what's most popular based on what it's shown

Hmm. Ai is much as a tools as the same tools they used in making 3D models and digital printing. It's a software

People forget that we had to learn language as kids and do this instead 🫩

This gotta be ragebait 😭😭 son just skipped whole process called efforts