Debatiendo la definición de genocidio | FriendZone
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FriendZone | Haz amigos y chatea ⋅ Diversión social activa ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC organiza una discusión comunitaria sobre la definición legal de genocidio en el contexto del conflicto Israel-Gaza. Los miembros analizan comparaciones históricas, el derecho internacional y los criterios para distinguir entre genocidio y guerra. Este hilo destaca las diversas perspectivas dentro del servidor mientras los usuarios debaten si los eventos actuales cumplen con el umbral legal específico de genocidio.
They are responsible for protecting their own people
Can you also clap?
Nobody here even denies that Hamas uses hospitals as military bases
No
That is true yes
I had to reread what I wrote here so I make my stance a little clearer but I don't think I really mentioned that? I was using examples of other 'genocides' to show the parallels of all these conflicts rather than just pointing fingers, I'm sure we already know what generally hase been going on historically and now and what claims and proof has been shown to be true/ untrue
No if palestine put there hands there would be no palestinian and if israel put it's hands down palestine would take their land back
If you use a hospital as a military base and fire rockets at your enemy from it and your enemy shoots back and takes down your hospital… I blame the side that started firing rockets from the hospital
I think the real tea is that if Israel put their hands down, there’d be no Israel. If Palestine put their hands down then there’d be peace.
True
Yk israel has the upper power and palestinians have all the right to their land
Israel has made peace with every other Arab country that previously tried wiping them off the map in the earlier Arab Israeli wars simply because they realized they needed to move onto better things than decades long conflicts
Correct to both statements. Still doesn’t negate anything?
It is just the Palestinians who refuse to make peace with the Israelis
Peace she says while they literally killed 186k innocent people what a wired idea about peace
Hamas got their own people killed don’t get it twisted
Israel is fine with a 2 state solution but Palestine is not. That’s fine, it’s their right to fight for it but it’s sad they risk their own people’s lives and WANT the destruction of Israel
Yes this is how it was from 1948 onwards
I don't agree with hamas but how does that justify killing 186k or sniping an innocent child
Even during UN resolution 181, the palestinian arabs rejected the partition entirely believing it was all their land and the palestinian jews accepted it
You keep mentioning the same things. It doesn’t justify ANYTHING.
It doesn’t justify it. I am not justifying killing anyone. I am just shifting the blame from Israel to Hamas
Multiple things can be true at the same time and this is what I meant when I said you’re biased, bigoted, and refuse to educate yourself on both sides
Those people would still be alive had Oct 7 never happened
Do you think it's fine to target an enemies headquarters even if it is surrounded by civilian infrastructure
Why shouldn't they ??? It's their land and they are ready to die for it if we see what israel has done to their people i would justify it
Use that same logic for Israel then(
Still doesn’t excuse or justify the killing of innocents
Yeah but even so why bomb hospitals???
It’s an established fact that Hamas uses hospitals and civilian structures to conceal weapons and military bases
Like bro cmon
Not necessarily I think you should give warnings and drop leaflets so civilians can evacuate if they need to (which Israel does like millions of leaflets), but even then I think most of the blame falls on Hamas for the strike
You think isreal is innocent??
I’ve explained this so many times and I know you already know the reason
Those are allegations to be confirmed btw plus the issue is an issue of implantation hypothetically if Hamas does that Leveling everything is still illogical or shooting children grape women children and men drop mines in shape of toys so children would pick it up and boom and also random arest and arresting Jews who stand with Palastine assult forgen activist before entering the territory block food block aid ambulances etc its way more than a hamas hiding issue if the Alligations were true btw
INNOCENT PEOPLE
And in your eyes that still justify killing 186k of their people and destroy all of their land
Not to mention not allowing evacuation times
I’m starting to think you’re genuinely stupid. I keep saying multiple times that nothing justifies killing innocent lives
You just keep bringing up bigoted and biased takes without acknowledging nuance
Killing innocent people is something we don't agree on but we talk about israel as a gov some people in israel are actually innocent but when we see 186k dead palestinians what do we say??
Dropping leaflets is so nice of them to do that, btw would you give the same grace if it's for example Iran attacking Israel's main headquarters which is in the heart of Tel Aviv (war was already known there, military shelters also) or is Iran mainly to blame there
It is just moral posturing he started this in the very beginning because I said “lmao” at something he said
Fr dude
He knows that you don’t actually justify it no matter how many times you say it but it makes him feel good to accuse you of it so he can feel like he’s in the right here 😂
Let's say hamas is actually in the hospital how does that justify ANYTHING you said they know innocent people are in the hospital so why bomb it
It doesn’t justify it, it just places the blame on hamas
At least majority of it
You just said “why is Israel bombing hospitals?!!!111!1!” Like you won’t acknowledge the WHY
