Debating the Definition of Genocide | FriendZone Discussion

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FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC hosts a community discussion regarding the legal definition of genocide in the context of the Israel-Gaza conflict. Members analyze historical comparisons, international law, and the criteria for genocide versus war. This thread highlights the diverse perspectives within the server as users debate whether current events meet the specific legal threshold of genocide.

happycactus-77

They are responsible for protecting their own people

@snowysilver-75 What a great politician ud make
quickranger-40

Can you also clap?

happycactus-77

Nobody here even denies that Hamas uses hospitals as military bases

@quickranger-40 Can you also clap?
snowysilver-75

No

@happycactus-77 Nobody here even denies that Hamas uses hospitals as military bases
quickranger-40

That is true yes

snowyorange-96

:alem:

@silentbadger-79 What is your best evidence that Israel is committing a genocide? (I would do my best to concentrate…
grandquiver-69

I had to reread what I wrote here so I make my stance a little clearer but I don't think I really mentioned that? I was using examples of other 'genocides' to show the parallels of all these conflicts rather than just pointing fingers, I'm sure we already know what generally hase been going on historically and now and what claims and proof has been shown to be true/ untrue

@happycactus-77 If the Palestinians put down their arms today, there would be a Palestinian state tomorrow. If the…
pearlguitar-88

No if palestine put there hands there would be no palestinian and if israel put it's hands down palestine would take their land back

@snowysilver-75 Only hamas ?
happycactus-77

If you use a hospital as a military base and fire rockets at your enemy from it and your enemy shoots back and takes down your hospital… I blame the side that started firing rockets from the hospital

@pearlguitar-88 No if palestine put there hands there would be no palestinian and if israel put it's hands down pal…
quickranger-40

I think the real tea is that if Israel put their hands down, there’d be no Israel. If Palestine put their hands down then there’d be peace.

@quickranger-40 I think the real tea is that if Israel put their hands down, there’d be no Israel. If Palestine put…
happycactus-77

True

@quickranger-40 I think the real tea is that if Israel put their hands down, there’d be no Israel. If Palestine put…
pearlguitar-88

Yk israel has the upper power and palestinians have all the right to their land

happycactus-77

Israel has made peace with every other Arab country that previously tried wiping them off the map in the earlier Arab Israeli wars simply because they realized they needed to move onto better things than decades long conflicts

@pearlguitar-88 Yk israel has the upper power and palestinians have all the right to their land
quickranger-40

Correct to both statements. Still doesn’t negate anything?

happycactus-77

It is just the Palestinians who refuse to make peace with the Israelis

pearlguitar-88

Peace she says while they literally killed 186k innocent people what a wired idea about peace

@pearlguitar-88 Peace she says while they literally killed 186k innocent people what a wired idea about peace
happycactus-77

Hamas got their own people killed don’t get it twisted

quickranger-40

Israel is fine with a 2 state solution but Palestine is not. That’s fine, it’s their right to fight for it but it’s sad they risk their own people’s lives and WANT the destruction of Israel

@quickranger-40 Israel is fine with a 2 state solution but Palestine is not. That’s fine, it’s their right to fight…
happycactus-77

Yes this is how it was from 1948 onwards

@happycactus-77 Hamas got their own people killed don’t get it twisted
pearlguitar-88

I don't agree with hamas but how does that justify killing 186k or sniping an innocent child

happycactus-77

Even during UN resolution 181, the palestinian arabs rejected the partition entirely believing it was all their land and the palestinian jews accepted it

@pearlguitar-88 I don't agree with hamas but how does that justify killing 186k or sniping an innocent child
quickranger-40

You keep mentioning the same things. It doesn’t justify ANYTHING.

@pearlguitar-88 I don't agree with hamas but how does that justify killing 186k or sniping an innocent child
happycactus-77

It doesn’t justify it. I am not justifying killing anyone. I am just shifting the blame from Israel to Hamas

quickranger-40

Multiple things can be true at the same time and this is what I meant when I said you’re biased, bigoted, and refuse to educate yourself on both sides

happycactus-77

Those people would still be alive had Oct 7 never happened

@happycactus-77 If you use a hospital as a military base and fire rockets at your enemy from it and your enemy shoo…
grandquiver-69

Do you think it's fine to target an enemies headquarters even if it is surrounded by civilian infrastructure

@quickranger-40 Israel is fine with a 2 state solution but Palestine is not. That’s fine, it’s their right to fight…
pearlguitar-88

Why shouldn't they ??? It's their land and they are ready to die for it if we see what israel has done to their people i would justify it

@pearlguitar-88 Why shouldn't they ??? It's their land and they are ready to die for it if we see what israel has d…
quickranger-40

Use that same logic for Israel then(

quickranger-40

Still doesn’t excuse or justify the killing of innocents

@happycactus-77 It doesn’t justify it. I am not justifying killing anyone. I am just shifting the blame from Israel…
pearlguitar-88

Yeah but even so why bomb hospitals???

@pearlguitar-88 Yeah but even so why bomb hospitals???
quickranger-40

It’s an established fact that Hamas uses hospitals and civilian structures to conceal weapons and military bases

quickranger-40

Like bro cmon

@grandquiver-69 Do you think it's fine to target an enemies headquarters even if it is surrounded by civilian infra…
happycactus-77

Not necessarily I think you should give warnings and drop leaflets so civilians can evacuate if they need to (which Israel does like millions of leaflets), but even then I think most of the blame falls on Hamas for the strike

@quickranger-40 Still doesn’t excuse or justify the killing of innocents
pearlguitar-88

You think isreal is innocent??

@pearlguitar-88 Yeah but even so why bomb hospitals???
happycactus-77

I’ve explained this so many times and I know you already know the reason

@happycactus-77 If you use a hospital as a military base and fire rockets at your enemy from it and your enemy shoo…
snowysilver-75

Those are allegations to be confirmed btw plus the issue is an issue of implantation hypothetically if Hamas does that Leveling everything is still illogical or shooting children grape women children and men drop mines in shape of toys so children would pick it up and boom and also random arest and arresting Jews who stand with Palastine assult forgen activist before entering the territory block food block aid ambulances etc its way more than a hamas hiding issue if the Alligations were true btw

@pearlguitar-88 You think isreal is innocent??
quickranger-40

INNOCENT PEOPLE

@quickranger-40 It’s an established fact that Hamas uses hospitals and civilian structures to conceal weapons and m…
pearlguitar-88

And in your eyes that still justify killing 186k of their people and destroy all of their land

@snowysilver-75 Those are allegations to be confirmed btw plus the issue is an issue of implantation hypothetically…
snowysilver-75

Not to mention not allowing evacuation times

@pearlguitar-88 And in your eyes that still justify killing 186k of their people and destroy all of their land
quickranger-40

I’m starting to think you’re genuinely stupid. I keep saying multiple times that nothing justifies killing innocent lives

quickranger-40

You just keep bringing up bigoted and biased takes without acknowledging nuance

@quickranger-40 INNOCENT PEOPLE
pearlguitar-88

Killing innocent people is something we don't agree on but we talk about israel as a gov some people in israel are actually innocent but when we see 186k dead palestinians what do we say??

@happycactus-77 Not necessarily I think you should give warnings and drop leaflets so civilians can evacuate if the…
grandquiver-69

Dropping leaflets is so nice of them to do that, btw would you give the same grace if it's for example Iran attacking Israel's main headquarters which is in the heart of Tel Aviv (war was already known there, military shelters also) or is Iran mainly to blame there

@quickranger-40 I’m starting to think you’re genuinely stupid. I keep saying multiple times that nothing justifies…
happycactus-77

It is just moral posturing he started this in the very beginning because I said “lmao” at something he said

@happycactus-77 It is just moral posturing he started this in the very beginning because I said “lmao” at something…
quickranger-40

Fr dude

happycactus-77

He knows that you don’t actually justify it no matter how many times you say it but it makes him feel good to accuse you of it so he can feel like he’s in the right here 😂

@quickranger-40 I’m starting to think you’re genuinely stupid. I keep saying multiple times that nothing justifies…
pearlguitar-88

Let's say hamas is actually in the hospital how does that justify ANYTHING you said they know innocent people are in the hospital so why bomb it

@pearlguitar-88 Let's say hamas is actually in the hospital how does that justify ANYTHING you said they know innoc…
happycactus-77

It doesn’t justify it, it just places the blame on hamas

happycactus-77

At least majority of it

@pearlguitar-88 Let's say hamas is actually in the hospital how does that justify ANYTHING you said they know innoc…
quickranger-40

You just said “why is Israel bombing hospitals?!!!111!1!” Like you won’t acknowledge the WHY

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