¿La IA generativa mata la creatividad? | Debate FriendZone

Literalmente podría dibujar solo figuras de palitos durante años hasta que finalmente miré tutoriales aleatorios y realmente aprendí, las habilidades deben aprenderse

¿Así que solo hay una forma universal y aceptable de hacer obras de arte? ¿Es eso lo que intentas decir?

Solo porque hemos estado haciendo algo de una manera durante mucho tiempo en la historia no significa que cualquier otra forma de hacerlo sea patética

Cierto, eso es lo que hacen las personas que realmente están interesadas en el arte.

Quiero decir, podemos hacer robots que puedan cuidar a bebés y niños pequeños como lo hacen sus madres. Pero no podemos decir que eso sea aceptable solo porque no tenemos que hacerlo de la misma manera solo porque eso es lo que siempre hicimos

Escribir un montón de palabras para generar una imagen para a menudo burlarse y degradar a los artistas que realmente crean significado a través de lo que crean es completamente patético, la IA al principio era extraña y aleatoria, pero si se hubieran ceñido a partes más técnicas de ella, podría haber estado bien

Muy bien. Entonces no los llamemos artistas. Siempre podemos inventar una palabra nueva que se ajuste a lo que hacen si la categorización de ambos en un mismo conjunto suena como una vergüenza

Sí, exactamente

¿Carece de significado la obra de arte hecha por esas palabras?

Sí

Bueno... obviamente tendrías una idea de cuál es el significado detrás de una obra de arte entonces

Cómo una imagen generada por una máquina que solo puede imitar las formas complejas en que los humanos piensan y crean nunca puede tener un significado verdadero, las palabras de una historia tienen más significado y es una forma completamente diferente a hacer prompts

No somos tan complejos

They're called lame people who can't draw and make an effort to learn it. Not being able to draw is not a bad thing but saying you're an artist while refusing to learn is loser behavior.

Besides same machine was made by man

They aren't called lame people. They are people,you are the one calling them lame

Early on when AI was starting out it was pretty intriguing until it started to change and control a already complete space for humans to create

It's nothing about being special, and I meant like the human mind itself is generally pretty complex even if we don't see it

We indeed are complex creatures, one of the main reasons why we're different from animals

Man using a machine to mimic actually artwork will never bring meaning to that artwork like people who draw/paint or wtvr it is they do on a canvas

Imagine not learning addiction and multiplication just cause ai can do it for you or by using calculators. I'd call that lame

Frr, a lot of us don't seem to realise that

That's a different comparison. Artwork isn't simple addition and multiplication

Meaning of art varies from person to person. Just like how the meaning of a poem may mean different things to different people.

Also the machine is complex too

It all depends on what you call meaning

Can be learnt. Also it's not the perfection which makes it art. People have different art styles and none of them make their more artistic

No living, non thinking thing btw

The machine is not human, being made by a human does not make it any more so, what it generates can't be considered pure 'creation', nothing about it ever actually thinks and has no thought behind what it actually 'makes'

People just gonna become brain dead in the coming generation after depending on ai for everything.

Yet. You don't want to accept a different art style made by someone with a machine, just because one made by a human is more artistic

Meaning can include many things, ideas, feelings, a thought, smth a person has seen and actually felt smth abt

Again with the terms on why is true and pure

I've already seen it and people don't put much thought into things now, besides AI is a collection of the internet and spits out wtvr is most popular of a topic

3D models made on computer are art which is also a machine, digital painting is also art. But not AI. Like you didn't "create" anything with ai

I've seen people advertise analyzing messages sent and how to reply by using ai 😭 like holy shi it can't be that hard to read.

And people don't see meaning in artwork made by Ai,is that it? Maybe you don't but I don't think it's all for everyone

Full on creation then, it's an algorithm that pushes together a bunch of pictures it has seen to create what's most popular based on what it's shown

Hmm. Ai is much as a tools as the same tools they used in making 3D models and digital printing. It's a software

People forget that we had to learn language as kids and do this instead 🫩

This gotta be ragebait 😭😭 son just skipped whole process called efforts