Debatendo a definição de genocídio | FriendZone
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FriendZone | Faça amigos e converse ⋅ Diversão social ativa ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC organiza uma discussão comunitária sobre a definição legal de genocídio no contexto do conflito Israel-Gaza. Os membros analisam comparações históricas, o direito internacional e os critérios para distinguir genocídio de guerra. Este tópico destaca as diversas perspectivas dentro do servidor enquanto os usuários debatem se os eventos atuais atingem o limiar legal específico de genocídio.
and thats not to say the many many wrongdoings from both governments on how theyre both handling this.
Yeah apparently i use ai in my arguments now 🙃
bottom line is that innocent lives are being taken as a result of selfish governments and hamas has more blame for the way they weaponize innocent liveds
I'll cut it short u could say hamas all u want but a Tweet from 2021 abt grapeing Palestinian girls way before October 7th doesn't look good for u
you really think this all stemmed from a TWEEET ur so naive
Hamas is bad yes isreal is son of a bih too
It may not show it to you but im not good at english so i use the built in translation in my phone so i can speak with arabic and it will give it to me in english if that's ai to you yeah....
Whatever makes em happy
Lol ig ill leave for now this argument is over
I don't get why mention Hamas to disprove the opposing sides point since they're a militant group sort of proves that everything they say is a lie, when it's literally common in multiple places where events have been considered 'genocide' have also had militant groups fighting against the ones who tried to wipe them out in part of as a whole
Now im so naive aren't u the one supporting ur country bombing rich coming from u FARRAH
For your first point, “lots of civilian infrastructure was destroyed” doesn’t automatically translate into “therefore it was destroyed to exterminate Palestinians”
For your second point, restrictions on aid is only genocidal if the only reason is to physically destroy the population. But I am guessing you will not even acknowledge Israel’s responsibility to do this during a war because it undermines the entire point so you’d rather call the restrictions arbitrary.
And for your third point, terrible statements made by individual officials is not proof that overall military action in Gaza was conducted pursuant to a plan to destroy the Palestinian population
whats my country ? idek what ur talking about
Never mind it then do u think isreal is liberating Palestinian s from Hammas?
Israel never tried to wipe them out, it was an attempt to make them autonomous that Hamas came about
i dont think israels objective is to liberate more than it is to defend and im still confused on what points youre trying to make
neither side is "right" there's a reason why this is so controversial and i approach this conversation with the objective facts with humanity
theres what my heart believes and what the reality of the situation is. history that precedes all of us btw
So passing death penalty on a certain group or sSA activists from EU passing with Food and stuff self defence 😭🥀
bro i literally get more confused every time you say smth no shade
I would use "perfect"
They don't need to mention that, it's clear to see and Hamas is like any other militant group in a region made to become violent through war and trapping a vast amount of people
Is Sniping a kid self defence?
in what context bro
like what ru even talking aboiut
Ohh... what's the prove that Israel attempted to wipe out Gaza before October 7th?
Woah Let's all act Shocked 🤯
The reason it's so controversial is because it's a conflict centered on political motives
You didn’t even prove genocide 😭😭 you literally said I cherry picked the ICJ’s criteria when you couldn’t provide an argument for it 😂 like wdym
people would argue the occupation that built up civil unrest but the tea is that israel literally withdrew only for their neighbor to elect extremists that wanted to wipe them out completely
I know this, this is false information. There has been no actual case where an IDF soldier deliberately sniped an innocent kid
also the acts of one soldier doesnt therefore shift the whole narrative and therefore therefore. individual actions dont represent the entire movements or war. lets look at the consistencies, facts, and patterns
Genocides don't have to be quick, west papau is an example of that and this has been going on for ages but ik you'll just mention another excuse they give like 'defence'
Hmm... understandable.
just pointing something out i won't even engage in the argument anymore 😬
You didn't get me the prove? Even the Palestinians themselves never claimed it.
Because you can’t actually prove genocide. I didn’t strawman it if anything I steel manned your argument 😭😭
this guy dead as asked this
What did he say??
You are saying that there was so much destruction that there is no other explanation than they want to wipe out Palestinians
Son😭🥀
Sure thing buddy 😬 👍
the only solution IS a two state solution. anyone that tries to argue for only one's existance isnt valid imo. israel has a right to exist and protect its people and palestinians deserve safety and self determination too. i dont think supporting either people means excusing the actions of their leaders
Check on the replied
I blocked him 😭 i can't see
What proof? I mentioned my points and I was mainly talking about what's going on now but now you want to stretch it to history which anyone could just look up online
Ohh... what's the prove that Israel attempted to wipe out Gaza before October 7th? He said 😭🥀
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The proof he said
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