Optimizing Trick Room Teams: VGC Strategy Guide

Summary

In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members are actively refining competitive Trick Room teams. This discussion focuses on optimizing core synergies between Farigiraf, Snorlax, and Kingambit, while addressing common vulnerabilities like turn-one double targeting. The community provides expert feedback on move sets and potential additions to ensure the team is tournament-ready.

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Hey everyone. Ive been playing around with different teams for a while, some tailwind some trick room and some dual mode. I made this team a few days ago and initially it was doing great. The belly drum attacks and eforce can be brutal.
Usually farig can pull off trick room while snorlax belly drums, set terrain for itself and hatterene and things go well. I initially had mega scrafty and scizor but I found kingambit a lot more useful so opted for kingambit and mega camerupt.
Usually things go well, except when farig is doubled targeted turn 1. Usually snorlax is tanky enough to move on without trick room but difficult. Also been swapping snorlaxes moves around to see what works. Initially had ice punch and body slam, then eq and rock slide.

Any changes you might recommend? I can start off farig and sinistcha to make the trick room user less predictable or use rage powder but sinistcha isnt always useful in some matchups. Was thinking maybe to add a min speed sneasler or equivalent for fake out help. I do like the team, id like to refine it before I decide whether to use it for a tourney next week

Soz for the rambling, thanksss!

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applelizard-61
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goldenbreeze-20 OP

Thankss!

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Did i write too much 😂

@goldenbreeze-20 Hey everyone. Ive been playing around with different teams for a while, some tailwind some trick ro…
silvercactus-53

I am wondering what Pokémon kill farigiraf with a double up

silvercactus-53

And uh

silvercactus-53

What does magic powder do

silvercactus-53

I'm genuinely surprised I have to ask what a move does

silvercactus-53

Ok I found out

silvercactus-53

That's kinda uh

@silvercactus-53 What does magic powder do
goldenbreeze-20 OP

Oh its something niche and new im trying but miggt change it. It just changed a pokemon to psychic type. So thought i could use it alongside kingambit/scrafty towards the end of match when there isnt much else I can do

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Ill probably not keep it only trying it 😂

@silvercactus-53 I am wondering what Pokémon kill farigiraf with a double up
goldenbreeze-20 OP

So earlier I got kowtow kleaved and then dragon clawed. Usually when its camerupt or snorlax next to fsrig, then it wont get double targeted. But it still does at times

silvercactus-53

And lorb claw kowtow kills?,

silvercactus-53

Damn

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Not often, but then if double targeted yes

silvercactus-53

I for some reason struggle to believe that

@silvercactus-53 I for some reason struggle to believe that
goldenbreeze-20 OP

The colbur saves me but then the 2nd attack on t1 can kill

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Like the other day I got close combated by sneasler and then hit with bug bite scizor

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Ive also had bug bite crit and one shot once

silvercactus-53

Oh you aren't that bulky

silvercactus-53

Yeah you should be bulkier

silvercactus-53

Bug bite sciz ohkos

silvercactus-53

No need for crit

goldenbreeze-20 OP

121 def I think

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Reckon I should move some from sp def to def

silvercactus-53

I don't like attack

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Which one?

silvercactus-53

And also I'd think you want a fake out user

@goldenbreeze-20 Which one?
silvercactus-53

Attack investment

silvercactus-53

Sorry for not writing spatk

@silvercactus-53 And also I'd think you want a fake out user
goldenbreeze-20 OP

I was thinking this! I had scrafty but I kept faking out late game after setting psychic terrain 🤦‍♂️but might need a fake out user for t1

silvercactus-53

Team's weird

silvercactus-53

You are also missing EVs on Gambit

@silvercactus-53 Attack investment
goldenbreeze-20 OP

Oh okay makes sense i can get rid of that. I had helping hand instead of thunderbolt. Do u reckon I should have protect instead on farig

@silvercactus-53 You are also missing EVs on Gambit
goldenbreeze-20 OP

Oh

@silvercactus-53 You are also missing EVs on Gambit
goldenbreeze-20 OP

Omg

goldenbreeze-20 OP

I adjusted this the other day must have been half asleep 😭

silvercactus-53

is the trick room merchant

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Explains why he's been so frail lately 🤦‍♂️

silvercactus-53

I genuinely tend to disrespect trick room structures in this metagame

silvercactus-53

I don't really think they have potential

@silvercactus-53 I genuinely tend to disrespect trick room structures in this metagame
goldenbreeze-20 OP

I usually lean towards tailwind or dual mode but I wanted to try a hard trick room strat for the rest of this season

silvercactus-53

Except one kang giraffe torkoal creation

silvercactus-53

I've faced

silvercactus-53

That's ok

goldenbreeze-20 OP

Ooo

silvercactus-53

It's killed me enough because I always tend to guess wrong on the sets

silvercactus-53

I'd suggest trying kang

goldenbreeze-20 OP

I reallllly hate kang

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