A IA generativa está matando a criatividade? | Debate

Eu poderia literalmente desenhar apenas bonecos de palito por anos até que finalmente olhei para tutoriais aleatórios e realmente aprendi, habilidades devem ser aprendidas

Então existe apenas uma maneira universal e aceitável de fazer obras de arte. É isso que você está tentando dizer?

Só porque fazemos algo de uma maneira há muito tempo na história não significa que qualquer outra maneira de fazer seja patética

Verdade, é isso que as pessoas que estão realmente interessadas em arte fazem.

Quero dizer, podemos fazer robôs que podem cuidar de bebês e crianças pequenas como suas mães fazem. Mas não podemos dizer que isso é aceitável só porque não temos que fazer da mesma maneira só porque é o que sempre fizemos

Escrever um monte de palavras para gerar uma imagem para muitas vezes zombar e rebaixar artistas que realmente criam significado através do que criam é completamente patético, a IA no início era estranha e aleatória, mas se eles tivessem se mantido em partes mais técnicas dela, poderia ter sido ok

Tudo bem. Então não vamos chamá-los de artistas. Sempre podemos criar uma nova palavra que se encaixe no que eles fazem se a categorização de ambos em um conjunto soar como um embaraço

Sim exatamente

A obra de arte feita por essas palavras carece de significado

Sim

Bem.. obviamente você teria uma ideia de qual é o significado por trás de uma obra de arte então

Como uma imagem gerada a partir de uma máquina que só pode imitar as maneiras complexas de como os humanos pensam e criam pode ter um significado verdadeiro, palavras de uma história têm mais significado e é uma maneira completamente diferente de fazer prompts

Não somos tão complexos

They're called lame people who can't draw and make an effort to learn it. Not being able to draw is not a bad thing but saying you're an artist while refusing to learn is loser behavior.

Besides same machine was made by man

They aren't called lame people. They are people,you are the one calling them lame

Early on when AI was starting out it was pretty intriguing until it started to change and control a already complete space for humans to create

It's nothing about being special, and I meant like the human mind itself is generally pretty complex even if we don't see it

We indeed are complex creatures, one of the main reasons why we're different from animals

Man using a machine to mimic actually artwork will never bring meaning to that artwork like people who draw/paint or wtvr it is they do on a canvas

Imagine not learning addiction and multiplication just cause ai can do it for you or by using calculators. I'd call that lame

Frr, a lot of us don't seem to realise that

That's a different comparison. Artwork isn't simple addition and multiplication

Meaning of art varies from person to person. Just like how the meaning of a poem may mean different things to different people.

Also the machine is complex too

It all depends on what you call meaning

Can be learnt. Also it's not the perfection which makes it art. People have different art styles and none of them make their more artistic

No living, non thinking thing btw

The machine is not human, being made by a human does not make it any more so, what it generates can't be considered pure 'creation', nothing about it ever actually thinks and has no thought behind what it actually 'makes'

People just gonna become brain dead in the coming generation after depending on ai for everything.

Yet. You don't want to accept a different art style made by someone with a machine, just because one made by a human is more artistic

Meaning can include many things, ideas, feelings, a thought, smth a person has seen and actually felt smth abt

Again with the terms on why is true and pure

I've already seen it and people don't put much thought into things now, besides AI is a collection of the internet and spits out wtvr is most popular of a topic

3D models made on computer are art which is also a machine, digital painting is also art. But not AI. Like you didn't "create" anything with ai

I've seen people advertise analyzing messages sent and how to reply by using ai 😭 like holy shi it can't be that hard to read.

And people don't see meaning in artwork made by Ai,is that it? Maybe you don't but I don't think it's all for everyone

Full on creation then, it's an algorithm that pushes together a bunch of pictures it has seen to create what's most popular based on what it's shown

Hmm. Ai is much as a tools as the same tools they used in making 3D models and digital printing. It's a software

People forget that we had to learn language as kids and do this instead 🫩

This gotta be ragebait 😭😭 son just skipped whole process called efforts