Should Billionaires Donate? | FriendZone Debate

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jollyharbor-54 OP

Because what do they need all that money for? The best they can do is gift to random people in need of help imo

@jollyharbor-54 Because what do they need all that money for? The best they can do is gift to random people in need…
ironcloud-78

billionaires don’t have billions in bank accounts they have that money in assets..

@jollyharbor-54 Because what do they need all that money for? The best they can do is gift to random people in need…
vividpanda-28

I disagree
If they want to help them they should help them with a skill or a way to earn on their own

ironcloud-78

yes because they sell some assets and then use the money..?

ironcloud-78

they don’t really walk around with billions in their pockets

ironcloud-78

and why should they donate? if you had that money you wouldn’t donate

ironcloud-78

rn you say you would

ironcloud-78

but that’s because you don’t have as much money

ironcloud-78

ok, cool?

ironcloud-78

many people are

ironcloud-78

most*

ironcloud-78

ok cool

ironcloud-78

if another country is poor or in a bad situation or some people are poor or in bad situations that’s their problem

ironcloud-78

i ain’t helping countries at wars/civil wars

ironcloud-78

should have made better buildings

ironcloud-78

wild but not a liar

ironcloud-78

venice prevents being flooded because they made something apposite to prevent floods

ironcloud-78

that’s smarter thinking

ironcloud-78

if you get flooded that’s your fault

ironcloud-78

or your countries

ironcloud-78

yeah, they have to stand up on their feet and do stuff then

ironcloud-78

start studying is a first step

ironcloud-78

and orphanages exist

ironcloud-78

tax payers

ironcloud-78

pretty much yeah

ironcloud-78

if its a orphanage made by the government

ironcloud-78

it’s paid by tax payers

mintviolet-51

They probably don’t always

They probably buy it on fiancé or stock

quickranger-40

yes majority of billionaires do donate their money to nonprofit orgs and foundations

quickranger-40

its highly regulated bc its not taxed so idk what you mean by sus lmao and yes donations are made through their own foundations when you are donating a shit ton of money

quickranger-40

family foundations having family on the board is literally how private foundations are structured lol and perfectly legal

quickranger-40

they still have to disclose everything to the IRS and follow the regulations/law

quickranger-40

also 70% just isnt true, admin exists yes but its no where near that high

quickranger-40

if theres a family foundation operating with 70% on admin thats just straight up illegal

quickranger-40

saying "im an accountant" doesnt make a statistic true lol. ive dealt with enough private foundations to know thats not generally how they operate. if your argument is that some charities abuse loopholes, sure. but thats very different from saying most charities spend 50-80% on admin because they dont

quickranger-40

thats extremely inefficient and if that were actually the norm, charity watchdogs wouldve been sounding the alarm for yearsssss

quickranger-40

youre arguing exceptions but not the rule :/

quickranger-40

well then what youre arguing for doesnt even make sense. "most charities spend 50-80% on admin" and now it's "family run foundations have conflicts". those arent even the same thing and family foundations are literally designed to have family involved, which is why theyre heavily regulated which ive already mentioned prior :/

quickranger-40

youre talking out of ur ass btw

quickranger-40

seeing a few family write offs doesnt prove family foundations arent heavily regulated ohh my god lmao. every system has bad actors. thats not evidence that most family foundations are abusing the rules

quickranger-40

if youre trying to say that fraud exists, obviously. if youre saying thats how most family foundations operate, you still havent shown that

quickranger-40

i dont need to audit charities to know your anecdotal experience doesnt prove "most family foundations". ive been around enough family foundations to know your personal experience isnt the same thing as evidence for the "most" youre claiming bru

quickranger-40

"ive seen it bro" bffr

quickranger-40

thats not hypocrisy lol. im not saying "believe me BECAUSE ive been around foundations". im saying your personal experience doesnt prove a claim about MOST foundations

quickranger-40

im saying ive been around enough family foundations to know that your description doesnt match my understanding. im not saying my experience proves a statistic. you are bru LMFAO

quickranger-40

we're missing the plot lol. i dont disagree that people abuse charitable deductions. i disagree that means billionaire family foundations are inherently just fake charities. thats a leaaaap

quickranger-40

thats a very diff claim than where this convo started🫩

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