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quickranger-40

and thats not to say the many many wrongdoings from both governments on how theyre both handling this.

pearlguitar-88

Yeah apparently i use ai in my arguments now 🙃

quickranger-40

bottom line is that innocent lives are being taken as a result of selfish governments and hamas has more blame for the way they weaponize innocent liveds

@quickranger-40 tell me youre uneducated without telling me youre uneducated. this whole conversation is so much de…
snowysilver-75

I'll cut it short u could say hamas all u want but a Tweet from 2021 abt grapeing Palestinian girls way before October 7th doesn't look good for u

@snowysilver-75 I'll cut it short u could say hamas all u want but a Tweet from 2021 abt grapeing Palestinian girls…
quickranger-40

you really think this all stemmed from a TWEEET ur so naive

snowysilver-75

Hamas is bad yes isreal is son of a bih too

pearlguitar-88

It may not show it to you but im not good at english so i use the built in translation in my phone so i can speak with arabic and it will give it to me in english if that's ai to you yeah....

@pearlguitar-88 Yeah apparently i use ai in my arguments now 🙃
snowysilver-75

Whatever makes em happy

@snowysilver-75 Whatever makes em happy
pearlguitar-88

Lol ig ill leave for now this argument is over

grandquiver-69

I don't get why mention Hamas to disprove the opposing sides point since they're a militant group sort of proves that everything they say is a lie, when it's literally common in multiple places where events have been considered 'genocide' have also had militant groups fighting against the ones who tried to wipe them out in part of as a whole

@quickranger-40 you really think this all stemmed from a TWEEET ur so naive
snowysilver-75

Now im so naive aren't u the one supporting ur country bombing rich coming from u FARRAH

@pearlguitar-88 Well im glad you asked the strongest legal case before the ICJ comes down to three massive points t…
happycactus-77

For your first point, “lots of civilian infrastructure was destroyed” doesn’t automatically translate into “therefore it was destroyed to exterminate Palestinians”

For your second point, restrictions on aid is only genocidal if the only reason is to physically destroy the population. But I am guessing you will not even acknowledge Israel’s responsibility to do this during a war because it undermines the entire point so you’d rather call the restrictions arbitrary.

And for your third point, terrible statements made by individual officials is not proof that overall military action in Gaza was conducted pursuant to a plan to destroy the Palestinian population

@snowysilver-75 Now im so naive aren't u the one supporting ur country bombing rich coming from u FARRAH
quickranger-40

whats my country ? idek what ur talking about

@quickranger-40 whats my country ? idek what ur talking about
snowysilver-75

Never mind it then do u think isreal is liberating Palestinian s from Hammas?

@grandquiver-69 I don't get why mention Hamas to disprove the opposing sides point since they're a militant group s…
silentbadger-79 OP

Israel never tried to wipe them out, it was an attempt to make them autonomous that Hamas came about

@snowysilver-75 Never mind it then do u think isreal is liberating Palestinian s from Hammas?
quickranger-40

i dont think israels objective is to liberate more than it is to defend and im still confused on what points youre trying to make

quickranger-40

neither side is "right" there's a reason why this is so controversial and i approach this conversation with the objective facts with humanity

quickranger-40

theres what my heart believes and what the reality of the situation is. history that precedes all of us btw

@quickranger-40 i dont think israels objective is to liberate more than it is to defend and im still confused on wh…
snowysilver-75

So passing death penalty on a certain group or sSA activists from EU passing with Food and stuff self defence 😭🥀

@snowysilver-75 So passing death penalty on a certain group or sSA activists from EU passing with Food and stuff se…
quickranger-40

bro i literally get more confused every time you say smth no shade

@quickranger-40 neither side is "right" there's a reason why this is so controversial and i approach this conversat…
silentbadger-79 OP

I would use "perfect"

@silentbadger-79 Israel never tried to wipe them out, it was an attempt to make them autonomous that Hamas came about
grandquiver-69

They don't need to mention that, it's clear to see and Hamas is like any other militant group in a region made to become violent through war and trapping a vast amount of people

@quickranger-40 bro i literally get more confused every time you say smth no shade
snowysilver-75

Is Sniping a kid self defence?

@snowysilver-75 Is Sniping a kid self defence?
quickranger-40

in what context bro

quickranger-40

like what ru even talking aboiut

@grandquiver-69 They don't need to mention that, it's clear to see and Hamas is like any other militant group in a…
silentbadger-79 OP

Ohh... what's the prove that Israel attempted to wipe out Gaza before October 7th?

@quickranger-40 like what ru even talking aboiut
snowysilver-75

Woah Let's all act Shocked 🤯

@quickranger-40 neither side is "right" there's a reason why this is so controversial and i approach this conversat…
grandquiver-69

The reason it's so controversial is because it's a conflict centered on political motives

@pearlguitar-88 Ai he says that proves nothing but that i won this argument have a nice day
happycactus-77

You didn’t even prove genocide 😭😭 you literally said I cherry picked the ICJ’s criteria when you couldn’t provide an argument for it 😂 like wdym

@silentbadger-79 Ohh... what's the prove that Israel attempted to wipe out Gaza before October 7th?
quickranger-40

people would argue the occupation that built up civil unrest but the tea is that israel literally withdrew only for their neighbor to elect extremists that wanted to wipe them out completely

@quickranger-40 in what context bro
silentbadger-79 OP

I know this, this is false information. There has been no actual case where an IDF soldier deliberately sniped an innocent kid

quickranger-40

also the acts of one soldier doesnt therefore shift the whole narrative and therefore therefore. individual actions dont represent the entire movements or war. lets look at the consistencies, facts, and patterns

@silentbadger-79 Ohh... what's the prove that Israel attempted to wipe out Gaza before October 7th?
grandquiver-69

Genocides don't have to be quick, west papau is an example of that and this has been going on for ages but ik you'll just mention another excuse they give like 'defence'

@quickranger-40 people would argue the occupation that built up civil unrest but the tea is that israel literally w…
silentbadger-79 OP

Hmm... understandable.

@pearlguitar-88 The fact that you are building a massive strawman instead of engaging with the actual argument is k…
pearlguitar-88

just pointing something out i won't even engage in the argument anymore 😬

@grandquiver-69 Genocides don't have to be quick, west papau is an example of that and this has been going on for a…
silentbadger-79 OP

You didn't get me the prove? Even the Palestinians themselves never claimed it.

happycactus-77

Because you can’t actually prove genocide. I didn’t strawman it if anything I steel manned your argument 😭😭

@silentbadger-79 Ohh... what's the prove that Israel attempted to wipe out Gaza before October 7th?
snowysilver-75

this guy dead as asked this

@snowysilver-75 this guy dead as asked this
pearlguitar-88

What did he say??

@pearlguitar-88 just pointing something out i won't even engage in the argument anymore 😬
happycactus-77

You are saying that there was so much destruction that there is no other explanation than they want to wipe out Palestinians

@pearlguitar-88 What did he say??
snowysilver-75

Son😭🥀

@happycactus-77 Because you can’t actually prove genocide. I didn’t strawman it if anything I steel manned your arg…
pearlguitar-88

Sure thing buddy 😬 👍

quickranger-40

the only solution IS a two state solution. anyone that tries to argue for only one's existance isnt valid imo. israel has a right to exist and protect its people and palestinians deserve safety and self determination too. i dont think supporting either people means excusing the actions of their leaders

snowysilver-75

Check on the replied

@snowysilver-75 Son😭🥀
pearlguitar-88

I blocked him 😭 i can't see

@silentbadger-79 You didn't get me the prove? Even the Palestinians themselves never claimed it.
grandquiver-69

What proof? I mentioned my points and I was mainly talking about what's going on now but now you want to stretch it to history which anyone could just look up online

@pearlguitar-88 I blocked him 😭 i can't see
snowysilver-75

Ohh... what's the prove that Israel attempted to wipe out Gaza before October 7th? He said 😭🥀

@snowysilver-75 Ohh... what's the prove that Israel attempted to wipe out Gaza before October 7th? He said 😭🥀
pearlguitar-88

😭 🥀

pearlguitar-88

The proof he said

@pearlguitar-88 😭 🥀
snowysilver-75

😭😭😭

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